Last night we told you the L109A1 grenade tossed into a crowd of Carnival
spectators on Saturday was British, tonight we can confirm that originated from
the BATSUB training unit in Ladyville. That’s the bottom line on a cursory
investigation conducted by the British Forces in Belize. As Jacqueline Godwin
found out today, that’s one key answer which leads to many more questions,
mainly how did it get from the British Forces into presumably Belizean hands.
Jacqueline Godwin Reporting,
Today the Commander of the British Army Training Support Unit in Belize Lt.
Col Peter Germain confirmed to 7NEWS that grenade
thrown in front of the Karl Heusner Memorial Hospital on Sunday night, the l109a1
green” is one of the grenades that was among a batch of one hundred and
sixty that was issued to his training unit late last year.
Jacqueline Godwin,
When were you guys issued grenade?
Lt. Col. Peter Germain, Commander – BATSUB
“Well okay I made some checks and from our spot checks it was August
2007 that we got a batch of 160 delivered to Belize. We had have other batches
delivered but we were able to distinguished by the serial numbers on that grenade
the exact batch, so that’s how we know that was in country of August of
07.”
The grenade is used strictly for combat and live training in exercises organized by BATSUB in Belize’s jungles.
Lt. Col. Peter Germain,
“We do have, as you would imagine, a comprehensive, and the regulations
require us to have a comprehensive regulations on how we account for this sort
of ammunition and we have checked and we know exactly how many grenades we’ve
received, how many been issued, how many have been returned to us, and how many
we were supposed to have in the ammunition compound. And I can confirm that
all we are required to have there, or we should have there according to our
papers, are in place and in the compound. The compound itself, all the ammunition
is stored in fortified explosive storage buildings and the perimeter of the
compound is patrolled and manned by armed by BDF soldiers. o I’m confident
having done the management checks on the paperwork, having looked at the security
in the compound, as things currently stand, the grenade certainly didn’t
come from within the compound.”
Rather it is believed that the breach in security occurred in one of the six
training exercises held over the past year. But just how did this grenade get
from the jungle training facility into the hands of urban terrorists? That’s
the question that a lengthy, detailed investigation will have to answer.
Lt. Col. Peter Germain,
“One thing I can do is reassure you that British Army and BATSUB take
any sort of ammunition or weapon breach of security very seriously and we will
investigate thoroughly. Indeed we’ve initiated the Special Investigations
Branch in the United Kingdom who deals specifically with military type breaches
of security to get involved in this and they have already began their inquiries
here in BATSUB and branching out from BATSUB as necessary and indeed back in
UK for anyone who might have come through on training opportunities here in
Belize with us, who might have been involved with grenades over the last year.
I mentioned earlier that the Special Investigation Branch were looking
into all the possibilities of where our breach might have occurred and it might
appear that one has obviously because one has appeared on the street and I wouldn’t
wish to comment on how it might have gone missing out from the training are
and risk comprising anything that those policemen back in UK will be asking
the very same units that have been here. This is part of the investigation that
will be done in the UK and indeed out here to try and establish where in the
line of our procedures that someone might have been able to breach the procedures
and offload a grenade.”
Sources tell us that police information suggests that the hand grenade may
have gotten to the street through a BDF soldier. But according to the BDF high
command, their soldiers do not take part in the live training; they act as opposing
forces and use only blank ammunition.
Lt. Col. Peter Germain,
“The BDF are very helpful indeed in improving the training we can
do out here by providing us with an opposing force and we also employ some locally
employed civilians to assist us, if you like, to provide a sort of civilian
population and make the training more realistic and they pretend to villages
in certain scenarios or non-governmental organizations or Red Cross people or
local policemen and that makes the training just a little bit more realistic.
When we employ those people we are not conducting live firing and therefore
the grenade in question would not have been available through any routine sources
for anyone to get hold of. Clearly the investigation will look into it. I am
not ruling out the possibility that a grenade could have fallen out of someone’s
pocket or pouch at some stage and then an individual has not owned up to the
fact. I am not suggesting that has happened but then that would leave it lying
on the ground and someone could pick it up but it is pure speculation on my
part and the investigation that I talked about will look into any possibility
that may have caused this breach.
A grenade of this nature is an indiscriminate weapon and anybody who chooses
to use it, whether in a civilian type environment is really committing an indiscriminate
act of cowardice and it shouldn’t be condoned by any group or any people.
Again I can reassure you that the checks that we conduct on a weekly basis,
on a daily and weekly basis, are far in excess of that the regulations require
us to do for us to retain close control of this sort of ammunition. So I am
very comfortable that what we have in place here in Ladyville on the ammunition
compound is secure. Once we issue it to the units that are training, bearing
in mind this is training for war in many cases, and they are issued the ammunition
in the field, despite rigorous checks that are still in place to try and keep
track of where everything is, there is a lot of it out there and it is more
difficult to keep very very close paperwork type scrutiny on where it is.”
And while the British military and police do their own investigation Belize
Police have been questioning a number of persons they believe can assist them
in their investigation.
As noted in the story, the BDF has disclaimed any involvement. But
the investigation now becomes much tighter as there are a few known variables.
First, the British know exactly which soldiers participated in those six training
sessions in the 13 months since the grenade came into the country. From there,
they should be able to narrow down their known local contacts and get a clearer
picture of how the grenade may have gotten out.
As for the previous three grenades detonated or detected since June.
The first was Czechoslovakian and the second which was handed in, and the third,
which was found last week – are said to have been similar. The L109A1
is an offensive grenade designed to kill, as opposed to those found previously
which were defensive grenades. Police still have two suspects detained and are
seeking two more, but no one has been charged.